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32coupe
 Post subject: Engine choice
PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 5:26 pm 
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Right I'm after another 2.0 si with Mondeo engines getting old will the fiesta 2.0 st duratec go in fairly easy
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Mounts needed.

Not sure what else, Dunno if the gearbox will fit easy

Also needs aftermarket management as you can't use the Dtec ECU

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swear the ecu and gearbox are needed - cant remember why - but i remember when fitting into a mk5 its a ballache due to this :lol:
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Mounts and fabrication ain't a prob aftermarket ecu lookin about £5-800 what's the power out if the duratec engine
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Needs to be live mapped as well

Roon has just put his in and it has 164bhp with 164 ft/lbs. With a little more mapping to go.

The gearbox is needed but I can't remember if theres a space issue or not. might not be, I just think they cost about £200 seperately,

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std duratec is 150bhp ish and theres plenty of mods out there for them
or you could go down the st170 route
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Also I could get you pictures of the mounts seperate from the car if you want.

If Ed plays ball anyway as he has some sat in his cupboard :lol:

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Choices choices Mondeo piece of piss to fit an 130-140bhp or duratec that's gonna be a ball ache but slightly more power
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Ballache and expense, but just watching a mk5 pull away and the whole car shake like fuck gets me feeling its fast..

Theres a 180bhp ZS on ZSOC which I've been in and the guy who was driving me in it went in the Dtec and reckons it was much faster. The Torque figure with the DTEC is one great, it's what will make the car really go.

Add some Cosworth bits and your looking at 200+

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Gonna really get into this but was thinking mk3.5 si as starting base
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Thats what I thought you meant. Sticking it into an Si will be awesome.

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Yeah si is way to go will start gathering parts then make start after xmass
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The st170 motor would that be mk1 or the later ones?
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Manifold, Sports Cat, Cat back, 10mm Leads, 60mm Throttle Body, K+N, Cosworth Inlet, Cams - Should be good for 200bhp + 160lb/ft - cosworth inlet loses torque so standard maybe better - cosworth is suited to supercharging
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Cheers meilack gonna go this route I think
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I've heard your paying a lot of money for the Cosworth name when you buy from there as well.

Although i'm not sure what alternatives there are :D

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SBD's tapered throttle bodys with management put the 150 duratec to 200bhp with no other mods,
tha duratec will be the future of fiesta engine swaps I think. Theres a lad on here who lives near me who looked into doing the duratec conversion but ended up doing the silvertop zetec for time and cost issues

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You will pay for the name above anything else there are a few others burton Raceline sbd so will have a look at what packages they do
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mountune's new inlet is good - but expensive

duratec is a good engine - gear ratios are ridiculously short - but with cosworth cams and valve springs, rod bolts and right map and mods - apparantly you can hit 8200rpm!
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Minster power go up to 8500 rpm on there 270bhp duratec that's some revs lol
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