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bleeding can be a bitch, i cant remember a time where its gone straight forward and ive usually ended up doing each corner more than once

changing all the brake lines is a bitch, tedious and time consuming as it shard to trace them all through the floor pan and the engine bay, doubled if your making the lines yourself, the bending and coping the layout would take hours, days even

but the four flexies isnt too bad, bleeding or knackered threads is the worst of it

i dont know if anyone said about brakes but i would go for drilled n grooved discs with green stuff pads had them on the xr2 and they were brilliant also what cams you looking at and how much are they ??

Are the green stuff good? I just remember someone saying they fall sort or something, but they. Seem popular. Standard discs? Or do you have to yet aftermarket drilled and grooved ones?
Shawspeed ss4's. £480 new. But someones selling a new pair for £450 ATM. I only have £100 and a £200 download ticket to pay for.. lol
Waiting for pay day to see if I can get them.

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green stuff are the worst if u push your car in any way, they put wayy too much paint on so u have to file it off to get them to fit right, the paint bubbles when the brakes get too hot, they fade wayy to easy, the friction material cracks, ther rubbish for brake dust unless u drive like an old man.
the ebc dics are alright tho so u could get sum of them and ferodo pads

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Those discs are like £125

Thats £100 more than standard ones

Can't seem to find the pads though.

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brembo do sum grooved discs for the mk3 for 50 quid so i would have thought they will do them for the zs aswell

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These?


Decide on some pads and i'll be set. Tempted by the cams if I have enough money next month! I probably won't be able to live but i'll have cams!!!

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found a link for those discs

make sure u get the right ones tho cos theres 2 different types for the 1.6 16v, u want the ones that are 258mm diameter not 239

ferodo do good pads at about 80 quid i think ther called ds300 or sumat or if u want some really good pads carbone lorraine rc6 are about £130 but they are amasing, not sure if they sell for the zs tho

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wasn't planning on spending so much! But the £80 ones will be alright ill. Look them up.
Thank you!

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hmmm well i found the green stuff pads n ebc discs really good and i didnt drive like an old man.. but agreed track use is not for green stuff i know someone with such agressive brakes they spark on use and coats the car in a thick layer of brake dust but i guess you dont need extreme stuff lol ill try find out what they are though. try black diamond or find ones you like and try them could always upgrade to something standard but bigger ???? as for the cams £450 !! you could do a puma conversion for that and get the same gains. VCT ftw !! but up to you really as cams would mean a set up etc

get some mondeo brakes on there chris with standard discs and pads works wonders for little cars

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Fiesta Si 2.0
Fiesta 1.1
Peugeot 206 sw 1.4

Puma 123bhp. Cams. 140 with a £160 chip or 150 with a live map

Yeah could just get the mondeo ones I guess!

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Just get some mintex pads if you dont want to spend out loads on other stuff stuff. Mintex do some of the best standard pads you can get. Also do fast road pads too which are good. I've used mintex before and would recommend them all day long.

BUT, its all to do with what driving style you have too. Thats one of the biggest factors when buying discs & pads.

As for the EBC green stuff, I have never had or noticed any problems with set I have fitted to a car. But mine have all been bought from EBC's website and not the crap you get in halfords... the ones you get from halfords are generally the crap bulk of pads, which is why they sell them cheap too. Even has a quote about that on their website somewhere im 99% sure of it.

But its upto you Chris. At the end of the day, buy for your driving style but dont just buy cheap knock off ebay £10 pads or discs either

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it will cost you less to drop a puma lump in there and get it to 140bhp than it would to buy cams and a chip
mondeo brakes ftw

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Fiesta Si 2.0
Fiesta 1.1
Peugeot 206 sw 1.4

It would not! It'll cost about £600 for all the bits brand new, 140bhp.

Puma is anywhere betwen £300-500 and then I've got to get it from 123bhp to 140bhp.
I'd rather stick with my engine as its low mileage, and save the faff.

Well on the road I just drive normally
But when I take it on the track i'll be giving it hell, maybe I should go for the ST170 set up? is that the one thats a direct boly on.. Hmmm So many choices.

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Not sure about ST170 being direct bolt on, but I know ST150 is.

Either way, getting bigger brakes, you will need discs and pads eventually lol.

Well for road use, get some decent normal pads. Mintex as I say, would be a good choice. The garages I have worked in have used alot of mintex pads before, I have used them too. But different garages use different pads.

For track use, I would possibly change the discs and pads all together - making sure they are bedded in properly of course. Depends how much you want to track it though. If its just the one 15min session though, a good set of pads (either already put on or changed for the track day) with say some decend drilled and slotted discs which you have on there already should be good enough.

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Now i'm even more confused, so my standard disc and some mintex pads would be enough for a few track sessions a year??

coupled with the braided lines and the fluid?

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ST150 are a direct bolt on but the ST170 isnt iirc, also the st170 are 300mm discs so will need to go under 16's unless you grind a shit load off the top of the caliper

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Well the ST150 was what I meant! Was just guessing at which one seemed the right name
how are they on your car?

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