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abuse away i don't care :)

dc2 integra nice car :)

C2 is a nice hatch to

but i have my ST. It's a ford. It will suit me fine. It's faster then my old one was with a K+N :hmm: :lol: (this one is getting a K+N :P (and a flexi pipe, cat back, black wheels and lowering when i have a job))

I can't be arsed with this jap/french is better shit anymore. I see alot of ST's so i am obviously not mad in owning one :)

They are holding their value due to the lack of new ST, but soon they will be a good buy ;) as it is a capable car, and when a manifold, sports cat, remap, cat back, flexi and induction kit and see upto 185bhp and cams and inlet 205bhp + 160lb/ft :P it seems that a tuned ST is a good car :)

I know a few people on here have moved away from the ford scene, and we are reminded every 5 mins :P :lol: but seriously, if you don't like my ST or fords.......don't comment :) there were enough arguments about this already and it is getting boring :)


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If you just bought a MK7 we would have left you alone. :P

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if mk7's were cheaper (prices have just gone up) i would have considered one :P

whats wrong with the ST then?


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As much as I would love to tell you, I already have. :)

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elaborate for a memory refresh then :P

as this cost me £6800 for a 30k phase 2 example :) (where as farnbrough are advertising a 57 plate blue one for £9995! :hmm: )


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I got a C2 VTS for £6500 with just short of 13k miles on it.

It only marginally slower than an ST but to say it's a 1.6 vs a 2.0 that means it either an amazing 1.6 or a bit of a rubbish 2.0

Group 8 vs 14 insurance.

For that money you could have got a 2.0 Clio which is how it should be done.

Basically the ST is a very nice car but there is many better options if you are not blinkered by the blue oval.

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true i could have got a clio.

The 2.0 is restricted as i have said before. It's actually group 13 insurance :P

and this car has cost me £500 so far, or i would have brought something else if i had a big lump of money to spend.

and the duratec is hardly a "shit" engine ;)

i wanted a red st in the first place but had a choice of blue or blue, it is hardly blinkered by the blue oval i just wanted the one i wanted originally

i don't see how car's i choose seem to kick up such a stink on here :rolleyes: even though unless i am mistaken, this is primarily a ford forum :)

Ry, i wouldn't go that far with cams and etc as i don't personally think it is worth it but a cat back exhaust can be nabbed for £260ish k+n £80 Flexi £140 for a new one and eibach springs are £100ish i think, and black wheels i am not sure on but assume £50 a wheel for a refurb ;)

I know i am a ford fan and i have owned one or two in my time :hmm: :hsugh: but i'm not always going to own a ford :lol:


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Sorry I may have caused confusion there, the Fiesta ST is a great car and could be argued it is the greatest fiesta ever.

My point is compared to other cars of the time it has nothing to make it stand out, basically I would never find a good reason to recommend one over the other hatchbacks.

I have an interesting point on tuning an power etc, I will carry on with the C2 as a point of reference I know about.

On average if you match the mileage an ST will cost £1000-£1500 more than a C2, so throw that money under the C2's bonnet and then compare and I can assure the C2 will come out on top.

Going back to the topgear comparison yes the ST won but why?, you can see the C2 is all over the ST in the corners but as soon as the next straight comes it doesn't have the same power. So back to what I was saying, spend that £1000 on the C2 engine and you will have a better handling lighter car with around the same power as an ST. Need I say which way that race would go?

Yes if you keep modding both the ST has the more potential going back to the 1.6vs2.0 thing, so may I present the Clio...

As said the Mk7 is a different kettle of fish, and I think the zetec-s is an amazing car, car I say I may end up back with ford one day due to that car. But with the way the miles aren't going on the C2 it going to last me a long time so who knows what will change.

Like I say, I can see why people own many cars (even 1.2 corsa's) but I can't see why anybody would want a fiesta ST.

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maybe because regardless of what you have said people think they are good cars :)

Ford hatches have generally sold well ;)

I have no idea how you can say that you can't see how anyone would want an ST over other cars........the spirit of the xr2i/rs turbo was reborn in the ST after the wayward models of the mk4/5 fiesta. The mk7 is a great car, i looked at one, but didn't want to spend £12k plus on a fiesta, especially as this ST is near enough half the price. And in my opinion the ST is a good looking car :)

You mention you don'y understand my choices. The thing is, they are exactly that: MY choices :)

I don't know why there is such an anti-ST witch hunt on here......i've already said if people don't like it then don't bother writing about it :lol:

Personally, due to a thing called torque :P i like the way the ST drives as you can make progress without redlining it :P I know the ST is not perfect, i haven't and won't say it is..........but there is always a french hatch is god's gift message preached on here...... :rolleyes:

Tune the C2 engine all you want percy, I'm not one for bragging rights, and if you make it faster then my ST, i will assure you that i won't lose any sleep or cry about it :rolleyes: is it some sort of competition?

Coming back to the point where you say you don't understand why people have an ST, maybe you should pop over to the STOC, where the unblinkered people love an ST, even though some have moved on to VXR's and in some cases an R26.R but they still have good things to say about the ST they have owned as they are car enthusiasts :P

The bottom line is, the ST is still a fun car, even if it isn't in the god like status as the french hatches........


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p.s

you say you loved the fiesta si but that is always slated in the french hatch question iirc :P


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am i the only one bored of this same arguement? :lol:

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sorry, i just don't see what the big fecking problem with the ST is and i'll argue my corner :) Percy clearly isn't happy with my choice of car again :hmm: next time i buy a car i'll invite all you FSI lot to help me choose ok? :rolleyes:

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