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well now that's over with

that would get very personal

sixfields still on?

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i do play nice

the clio could reverse faster then the fiesta ST in all honesty

that would be a darn good tussle, 2 amazing cars

there's plenty of cars ford have made which should have been faster:

Mk5 ZS Fiesta
Mk6 ST fiesta
MK1 Focus ST170

etc

even with a focus st, i still have a hankering for a Diamond White S2 ERST

now put an st170 engine in a zetec - s and you got a good toy! clio cup competitors at least them!

i think your just very passionate about fords aren't you

I am! but im playing old school ford at the moment and i cant really find any old Renaults around the same era on the road to compare much so old school fords rule plus back in the days when my lil car was about Renault 5s weren't the best handlers and out handled by xr2s me thinks but yet they were more powerful so really over time the tables have turned...but it shows how far Renault have come with the designs!

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would be interesting

and yeah well i am, but i am not stupid or just a "one marque bummer"

and fighting with fire there

thats were your going wrong you fight fire with water

although it seems to be like your running against a brick wall at this point!

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yes it feels that way

starting to hurt my head now

and well i saw my first Focus RS yesterday in Green lush

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i like that picture tho

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This is not meant offensive to any one i just find it highly amusing! my mate who sits opposite me in work drives a clio cup and we play all the way home as he also lives in the next street to me (although i screw him all the way home )

anyway i showed him this little debate to him and his reaction "French cars aren't better than fords at all, they are cheap, nasty, plastic tat and the only good thing about them is the price, speed and handling" no hes not very mechanically minded but he said for the unknowing...if he had the money he would love to have a ford as better built. (again not mechanically minded person but still just though id share as it amused me as i didnt expect it as he loves his car)

so i suppose there is the reason they go so well! cheap build..which just turned in there favour!

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different strong points so to speak

i'm impressed with the build quality on the focus st, very un ford like, its not rattly for a start

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your mk2 fiesta has nothing in it

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