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need some help guys got some r1 carbs for my car and just wondering is there a pick up on the fly wheel which would sort the ignition side of things or am i going to have to get management which i dont want to do just now coz i am skint any help really appreciated guys

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dont think the origional flywheel sensor and ford ecu will run the ignition as a stand alone system but could be worth a try, i brought all the stuff to fit ZX9 carbs with WEBCON ALPHA ignition ECU but stayed with injection.
only option if the ford system fails is stand alone ECU like ALPHA or megajolt

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if you remove the injection system to try run it on ford zetec ecu it will think something is heavily wrong and advance the spark slightly so will run shit or eventually kill your engine from pinking

If you want to run carbs on a zetec the best option for you is to get the esc (electronic spark controller) loom and red block found on single point injection escorts and mk3 fiesta, this is designed to run just a spark and what all the boys with mk2 zetec on carbs use! Then you can use your original flywheel with no problems.

Just encase you do need one i have the complete spark loom and esc panel with map sensor built in to run spark!

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There are a number of propriety manifolds and kits available from your local Ford tuner to drop a pair of Italy's finest petrol pumps on. With the fuel sorted, how do get round the sparks side? The Zetec doesn't have a distributor, just a single crank sensor using the 36-1 tooth method of encoding (36 teeth spread around the back of the flywheel, but with one missing at the datum point), and a crank sensor (only used for sequential injection). You can either go to an ECU supplier to provide a ignition only ECU for a few hundred quid to use the existing pickup and coil pack, or to get 95% there, you can use the igntion system from a late CVH Mk4 Carburettored 1.6 Escort. This is a complete standalone ignition system with a sufficient ignition map to run the engine quite well using the ESC system, and uses the standard Zetec pickup and coil pack. Pick up sufficient wiring from the donor car, and you'll be left with 3 wires; 12V, ground and a feed to the tacho!"

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in the link below you will find a guide on how to fit it! literally plug and play to all sensors! you only need to match up three wires, ignition live, ground & tacho for your gauge :D



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You are a god.

Carbs on fiesta pickup sounds tempting if i dont have to get an aftermarket ecu :lolz: :lol:

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top man very helpful cheers wasnt even goin to bother with the carbs but they are so cheap i thought why not.how much for the esc unit then

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hi just to make sure before i tamper and totally fook it all up ive got a 1.6 zetec si i wna run on carb im thinking will an standard mk3 fez cvh 1.6 inlet and carb work i will upgrade to 40-45 webbs but just to try it out, and also is it just the escorts that have esc or do any mk3 fiestas have it thanks mate apreciate if you could help

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oh sorry pal erm i clicked your link i read this bit and got confused

The three wire's we use are black, switched 12v+/brown, ground/and green and red which is rev counter feed. I use the coil's wire for rev counter feed the coil feed for switched 12v+ then find suitable ground
once you have your three wires connected it is time to fit to car the plugs are as follows the round single plug with black wire was for fuel shut off on carb

were on earth do i connect these wires to? once again sorry and cheers pal

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