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jimbobsfez

Post subject: car wont start up can you help ?

Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 4:57 pm

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ayup this is my first post and im sorry for it to be a negative one .I have 1.6 si and it has stopped starting up i cna lock the doors with the central locking and also undo them with it too .I can also lock the doors using the key but cant unlock them does anbody know what could be wrong and how to fix it .the car will turn the cd player on but cant start the car up there is a clicking sound when i open the car coming from neer the accelerator pedal.any help would be much appreichated .j

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onslack

Post subject: Re: car wont start up can you help ?

Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 6:10 pm

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does the car turn over?

or does it click as your turning the key?

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jimbobsfez

Post subject: Re: car wont start up can you help ?

Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 6:21 pm

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erm well when i put the key in and turn to start the car up it makes a noise asif its tyring to start then i hear a clicking noise even when i take the key out and it seems to be coming from the bottom of the footwells nere the accelerator pedal

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onslack

Post subject: Re: car wont start up can you help ?

Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 6:29 pm

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i'm not the most knowledgeable person :look:

,but i'll give it a go :lol:

i think its either your starter is knackered and sticking or your battery is flat and doesn't have enough charge to turn the car over

or it could be the combination of both :lol:

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jimbobsfez

Post subject: Re: car wont start up can you help ?

Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 7:14 pm

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could be starter cus ive tried jumping it but nothings happnin so i dunno mite be starter motor but seems weird how last nite was fine not making any differant sounds or not turning over straight away to not starting at all but thnks for the help

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onslack

Post subject: Re: car wont start up can you help ?

Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 7:18 pm

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mine was the same, one day it was fine the next it wasn't starting had to keep bumping it :rolleyes:

, not fun when your on the BT forcourt! :cry:

have you tried bumping it? or try giving the started a whack with a broom handle or something then try it

no prob's mate, i'm not the most technical so i might be wrong :red:

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jonosi

Post subject: Re: car wont start up can you help ?

Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 8:08 pm

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is it quite a fast clicking as your turning over?

just that my battery goes flat (well not enough to start the car) when its left during the winter months

all i get is a click click click click as Terry said, then i charge me battery & its fine

to save money i would see if i could get someone with jump leads and give that a go
atleast you could rule out the battery or find out if its had instead of starting to buy things to eliminate them

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jimbobsfez

Post subject: Re: car wont start up can you help ?

Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 10:13 pm

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well i suppose it is quite a fast click but it also comes on when i open my doors once ive opened them using the central locking then open the doors then the click starts it also comes on when i try to start the car .But usualy i thought that when the battery dies it would make quite a loud sound as if its trying to start but it doesnt do anything.I find it hard to beleive that last night the car was perfectly fine and started first time and then when i got home the car wouldnt start .

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Fezzyzetec

Post subject: Re: car wont start up can you help ?

Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 10:24 am

try and get hold of someone with a battery tester and test to see if the battery is not drained and to check to see if the alternator is fine, then it got to be the starter solenoid m8 check to see if the wires are ok on the starter could be a loose wire

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RacingMick

Post subject: Re: car wont start up can you help ?

Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 11:04 am

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Check your ignition relay which is on the fuse box located under the dash/in the drivers footwell.

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sk8xtrm

Post subject: Re: car wont start up can you help ?

Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 5:54 pm

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if it does it when you open the doors have you checked if the PATS light is coming on as normal, if PATS sender or receiver knackered and not picking up a signal it wont let the car fire but will allow it to turn over.

If the immobiliser light does come on like normal then try bump it or jump start it!

Only advise i could think of offering!

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jimbobsfez

Post subject: Re: car wont start up can you help ?

Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 6:43 pm

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chears for the help guys im still tryin them ,bumping isnt working and jumping it isnt neither .the clicking happens when i open any of the doors so it could be what you said .chears for the help il let you know if i get it going .

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Mattyboy Esq

Post subject: Re: car wont start up can you help ?

Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 6:55 pm

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Modern Batterys have a 3-4 year shelf life, once it passes that time the battery is useless, wont charge and wont jump, best bet is to get the battery tested, take it off and go Kwick fit etc.

Sounds like the batterys dead, even though your jumping its still not enough juice to get it started, i had this problem on my Rallye, battery died and wouldn't jump!

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sk8xtrm

Post subject: Re: car wont start up can you help ?

Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 7:08 pm

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Post subject: Re: car wont start up can you help ?

Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 9:05 pm

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have you got it up to a right good speed before bumping it? i only ask because my xr2i requires a downwards hill and 3 people before it will bump start.

tw@ the starter with a hammer then try.

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jimbobsfez

Post subject: Re: car wont start up can you help ?

Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 4:48 pm

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chears for the help .today i have follwed the sound and have found out that it is coming from the ecu ,then found that the imobiliser is not working right and tht i couldnt turn it off and as the keys didnt work in the doors i took the door panels of and tried to investigat more found out that the locks must have been changed as the seal was broke and there were cables out of the wiring loom.so im now going to take it to the gaarage as they said they should be able to sort it out .

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sk8xtrm

Post subject: Re: car wont start up can you help ?

Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 5:09 pm

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he he i was right...nerrrr....sorry excuse my outbirst.lol

i though you said earlier that the immobiliser light was working right?

it probably wont be the ECU, the Fiesta 1.6 si has external PATS so its more than likely one of three things
In order of most likely

1) receiver (its the black case around the barrel)
2) the chip in the key
3) the actual pats box above the ECU - unlikely

my actual receiver went at one point so it might be that, ive heard of a few of them going!!!

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jimbobsfez

Post subject: Re: car wont start up can you help ?

Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 5:17 pm

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well tbh i hope its not to expensive to sort out i need to have a new clutch fitted and have been quoted 180 and then on top ive got this problem to sort out .but i bort this car last sunday and its the dark purple colour and i love it wanted one for ages and cus its this colour i had to have it but scared tht these costs are gonna make me want to sell it .,but i want to hang on cus ive got so many plans for the car and would be a shame for me to have to get rid of the parts ive got to put on it ,

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Post subject: Re: car wont start up can you help ?

Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 5:28 pm

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Post subject: Re: car wont start up can you help ?

Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 5:34 pm

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yeah its this coulour and when i polished it up it looked mint in the sun .therz nly one bit of rust and it would be a shame to ever get rid .just cant be doing with the problems the clutch ok i knocked the bloke down for tht but this i cant believe it cus it was working fine 2 days ago then the next day wouldnt start .not sure what to do at the min .got some nice parts on it already and more to go on.

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