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Project Orange
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Author:  magikace11 [ Sun May 01, 2011 4:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Project Orange
Hey, just thought ide share wat my plans are.

Ok so ive finally decided after about a year of having my si, I'm going to go all out on it and spend loads of money on it. Its taken me ages to decide between gettin a discount vw as im a technician there or keep my fezza. I've always been a ford nut so dnt know wat took so long :D
I've dropped the 2litre in wiv tb, maf and ecu so far.
It looks just as i bought it apart from an rst bonnet ive just put on.

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I've decided to call it orange project bcoz its my favourite colour and 1 day this bad boy will have it everywhere...
orange cam cover, calipers, samco hoses, interior stitching ;)

I'm quite happy wiv the outcome of the 2litre, especially the noise it makes...PORNOGRAPHY!!!
But nw i fink its time to step things up a bit, future plans are:
-cosworth brakes all round.
-ho inlet
-branch manifold and decat
-superchip
-piper cams, vernier pulleys
-polybushes all round
-optima battery and 150 amp alternator
-front and rear strut braces
-balance lighten bottom end
-cvh stage 3 head
-turbo conversion

and for the looks i just recently saw a pic on here and this is what im aiming for

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Accept someone informed me im not sitting low enough for this look, thought i was at 35mm but not sure now. but the xr2i bumpers, skirts and arches matte black, euro wheels and i want a dull orange body :D

This weekend im welding everything and having new sills then spraying the whole underneith so wish me luck!!
Author:  Percy [ Mon May 02, 2011 12:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Project Orange
Sounds good, but you mention piper cams and later on a turbo conversion (to which the cams would be useless), so surely its best to save the money and either skip the piper cams, or get the cams but not turbo it?

I am looking forward to seeing this one progress.
Author:  happypaul [ Mon May 02, 2011 12:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Project Orange
60mm drop minimum if you want the above look.

sounds like an interesting project anyway.

I do agree with percys input tho
Author:  magikace11 [ Mon May 02, 2011 3:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Project Orange
yes a few people have said that to me, would you reccomend going for the turbo conversion or just pure beastly engine power??

60mm yea, the guy who had the car before me put monroe shocks n springs on so seems a shame to waste them, but then again i do love that look!
Author:  Percy [ Mon May 02, 2011 3:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Project Orange
Its more making up your mind if you are going N/A or forced induction.

There is advantages to both, but you really need to figure which is for you and stick to it.
Author:  happypaul [ Mon May 02, 2011 3:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Project Orange
All depends on what power you want, budget etc etc

Monroe shocks and springs? what? lol.. who cares, if you want the look dump it on the floor ;)
Author:  magikace11 [ Mon May 02, 2011 5:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Project Orange
I like the way u fink paul! Haha but is 60mm still gud 4 handling coz I fink handlibg is spot on atm n dnt wna ruin it.
Hu am I kidding......TURBO!!
Author:  Dave G fsi [ Mon May 02, 2011 11:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Project Orange
Nice project there mate :thumbsup:
Author:  onslack [ Tue May 03, 2011 10:16 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Project Orange
nice looking fez buddy, you looking to go for a zvh or a zt conversion? :D
Author:  meilack [ Tue May 03, 2011 10:44 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Project Orange
looks good :chill:
Author:  magikace11 [ Wed May 04, 2011 6:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Project Orange
Cheers guys ;)
Im finkin zvh is better from wat ive read up.
Author:  Percy [ Wed May 04, 2011 7:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Project Orange
ZVH is in many respects a budget zetec turbo as you basically run the full RS turbo setup with a zetec bottom end, head work and a remap.

Another thing is to keep it low on price a 1.8 in many respects can be better to use as you can use a decomp plate (the 2.0 isn't up to it).
Author:  magikace11 [ Wed May 04, 2011 10:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Project Orange
oh rite, wel i knw this project is gna run me dry at sum point, currently saving for turbo conversion.
Can you run the rs turbo setup and replace with t3?

Ive got a guide bookmarked saying i should use cosworth calibra forged pistons, but do they go into the cvh or zetec?
Author:  Percy [ Thu May 05, 2011 12:32 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Project Orange
Yes you could run a T3.

the calibra pistons are for a 2.0 turbo, the engine will need overboring.

I did a lot of research when I planned this but I never got there.

in short a 2.0 turbo gets expensive fast as you need new pistons, a 1.8 can use the stand pistons.

In both cases you can then got for CVH or Zetec head, now you can get more more with a zetec head but you need a lot more work on engine management, if you use the CVH head it will need work doing really so it can but you can maintain standard RS turbo management.

As I say a 1.8 ZVH is the cheapest and can get around 200bhp quite easily. a full on 2.0 zetec turbo can get 300bhp+ but cost a lot more.
Author:  happypaul [ Thu May 05, 2011 9:21 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Project Orange
For cheapness, and easiest - I would CVH Turbo it.
Or the above.
Author:  booker [ Thu May 05, 2011 10:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Project Orange
would love to no more info doing the 1.8 zvh turbo build :halo:

where can i find out more info or what would be your ideas on doing the 1.8 zvh percy :thumbsup:

eg. what bits to collect as i already have the 1.8 :halo: :thumbsup:
Author:  Percy [ Thu May 05, 2011 10:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Project Orange
If you have the 1.8, its pretty much get a full RS turbo head loom and ECU and of course a turbo.

Past that you need the oil feed for the turbo tapping into the 1.8 block and the compression lowering, this can be done my skimming the pistons or using a decomp plate.

There is a lot of info out there dare I say fiestaturbo.com is a good place for it.
Author:  booker [ Thu May 05, 2011 10:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Project Orange
then i suppose i could run the t3 manifold and turbo and use the st170 gasket if i am correct plus the rs head loom and ecu shouldnt be a issue find them
plus what sort of intercooler and stuff extra would i need :thumbsup:

i will start new topic for this build to stop spamming this :thumbsup:
Author:  Dave G fsi [ Thu May 05, 2011 10:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Project Orange
Also need to weld up some coolant holes on the block and need a special head gasket :thumbsup:
Author:  happypaul [ Fri May 06, 2011 7:18 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Project Orange
If your gonna piss about doing ZVH do a 16v...
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