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Percy

Post subject: Re: Fiesta zetec s - smokeandvideos!

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 1:43 pm

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The puma will be more rev happy in theory, with that your cames seem to have changed the car quite massively anyway.

Stick with it mate, if you didn't have the cams it would be easier to say go for the 1.7, but you have them and where happy with it so stick with it.

Is it possible the head gasket is gone, its not uncommon after camming.

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Post subject: Re: Fiesta zetec s - smokeandvideos!

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 1:49 pm

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Percy

Post subject: Re: Fiesta zetec s - smokeandvideos!

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 1:53 pm

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Comes back to the revs vs torque arguement I guess.

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Post subject: Re: Fiesta zetec s - smokeandvideos!

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 2:54 pm

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Sorry to hear about this, especially after the coilover trouble. I saw about 5 zetec s engines at the scrap yard near me so they should be pretty common to get hold of.

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Elward

Post subject: Re: Fiesta zetec s - smokeandvideos!

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 5:04 pm

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Generally with any sort of Cam timing it has to be worked, like a vtec to get some speed you gotta get up past 5k and get the vtec working, personally i love the pull of a vtec/VVT.

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meilack

Post subject: Re: Fiesta zetec s - smokeandvideos!

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 5:05 pm

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hence my temptation :lolz:

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Elward

Post subject: Re: Fiesta zetec s - smokeandvideos!

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 5:06 pm

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ive been looking at pumas, put this into context

Puma 1.7 123bhp.
Â£2,000+ to insure

Ph1 Clio sport 172, 173bhp as standard
Â£1200.

Go figure!

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meilack

Post subject: Re: Fiesta zetec s - smokeandvideos!

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 5:08 pm

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i meant the one that Ry posted to drop the lump in my ZS - but i must resist!

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Elward

Post subject: Re: Fiesta zetec s - smokeandvideos!

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 5:13 pm

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meilack

Post subject: Re: Fiesta zetec s - smokeandvideos!

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 5:22 pm

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bensouthport

Post subject: Re: Fiesta zetec s - smokeandvideos!

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 5:43 pm

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chris mate thats balls lad! hope you get it sorted. everyone seems to be chipping in with plenty of helpful advice but as you've said, you won't know where to go until you get down and dirty with danny (sorry if that hints at anything lads!)

then go from there.

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Post subject: Re: Fiesta zetec s - smokeandvideos!

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 7:36 pm

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I was speaking to a guy at Honda when I test drove a few EP3's, and he was going on about how Toyota make exchange deals with Honda for patents and rights, for instance they've traded 2nd generation Vtec for 3rd generation VVTi technology before, etc.

At the end of the day and as I see it, VVT, VVTI, Vtec and i-Vtec were the pinnacle of a performance manufacturing process for fast hatchbacks and coupÃ©s with smaller displacements in the 90's and 00's, before the realisation that turbo charging even smaller displacement engines was both efficient and economic, which is what we'll see over the coming years more and more often.

End of the day, unless you're going to spend a lot of money on the 1.6 ZS engine, get in on the VVT action! That's my take on things. Think Adam wants that Puma now though, so this is slightly more relevant to his thread

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Chris

Post subject: Re: Fiesta zetec s - smokeandvideos!

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 8:15 pm

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He can have it :lol:

too much effort and not enough tools or knowledge to do it.

All I want is the car running with the cams and a remap at a sensible 140-150bhp. Nice and reliable still and just to drive it :lol:

I don't want to be selling the cams, fitting a puma, buying cams for that etc etc, i'm already there, i just need to fix the engine and get a map :lol:

this was always the plan and then I can start saving for life :lol:

at the end of the day it pulls hard, it has a little kick to it and I don't see a puma as a good option really.

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Percy

Post subject: Re: Fiesta zetec s - smokeandvideos!

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 10:39 pm

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As said before you cams do make it sounds much like my C2 to drive which isn't completely unlike a mini vtec as its been called, so you have already started to climb up the happy revy scales making it more like a puma engine. :lol:

I am genuinely interest what kind of power your 1.6 makes, I best watch it as I may start losing the best 1.6 badge at RR days. :lolz:

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Chris

Post subject: Re: Fiesta zetec s - smokeandvideos!

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 10:43 pm

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what does yours put out?

Once its fixed etc i'll get it RR'd / RR day, (depending on condition and funds :doh:

) But yeah, i'm interested.

I also forgot to say I tried the 0-60 and my friend before said his 2.0 306 did 9.1 secs. So I trued twice and for 9.1 both times!

So as you say before, weight etc. 125 would be about right

all I know is it pulls hard

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Percy

Post subject: Re: Fiesta zetec s - smokeandvideos!

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 11:04 pm

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Mine was putting out 131.1bhp on its last run, of course once yours is fully setup it will have a good kick + I guess the fiesta is lighter so you should be quicker. With that my 0-60 is around 8 seconds (apparently).

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Sam_RSi

Post subject: Re: Fiesta zetec s - smokeandvideos!

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 11:05 pm

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will have to take you in mine at a southern meet chris, as described by a few members on here plus others mine will tear you a new arse hole :halo:

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Chris

Post subject: Re: Fiesta zetec s - smokeandvideos!

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 11:11 pm

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I'd love that

I'm yet to have a ride in a Turbo car and an old school escort would be an epic virginity loser

Ooh, well fully set up I am hoping for a lot more than that! 140 with the msd chip, so going for 150 still. Fixing it is more important now

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Sam_RSi

Post subject: Re: Fiesta zetec s - smokeandvideos!

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 11:21 pm

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well if anyone offers you a ride in a turbo car before say no lol and this is official you have signed your virginity to me !! :squint:

well i should come to the RR and take your 1.6 crown but im not but mine is 187.5bhp at like 4200rpm @15psi :halo:

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Elward

Post subject: Re: Fiesta zetec s - smokeandvideos!

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 11:23 pm

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Screw it gunning it on a hayabusa is much more fun! now that will make you turd in your pants clocking onto nigh on 180mph!

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