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 Post subject: brake pipe flaring
PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 7:18 pm 
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ill keep this simple, clamped the pipe in the flaring kit thing, got the flaring tool, however as i turn the bit that flares the pipe, it just pushes the pipe out... YES i have tightened it, a lot, to the point where it wont tighten anymore.

can anybody shed any light on this? thanks

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 Post subject: Re: brake pipe flaring
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 Post subject: Re: brake pipe flaring
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smallest hole there is... can only do one end wayne mate

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 Post subject: Re: brake pipe flaring
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what pipe and tool do u have ?
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 Post subject: Re: brake pipe flaring
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using the original break pipe big g. will get a pic up now, one sec...

think i just need to support the pipe at the back tbh, im just impatient.

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I have read that bending and re flaring the standard ford pipes is a right bitch!
It may be that the pipe is too strong for your tool as the ford pipes aren't made from the same malleable stuff as the replacement shit you buy.

Just persevere slowly mate. May be worth trying a bit of electrical tape round it where it's held in the tool to try and get a better grip?!?
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 Post subject: Re: brake pipe flaring
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good shout paul. yeah they are very tough. ill give all that a try tomorrow

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 Post subject: Re: brake pipe flaring
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Are you using a metric or imperial flair clamp as I had similar problem with a cheap metric one, also as said above made more for doing flairs on soft copper pipe not re-flairing original pipe if that is what you are trying, alternative is to replace pipe to first existing joinr

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yeah i saw that but i dont have the time or money to be messing around witht hat. i know the unions are pretty close to where i want to flare, but ill just persist with the original one. if that fails, then yes, ill have to invest! thanks will

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 Post subject: Re: brake pipe flaring
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When I replaced all the brake lines on an Escort the copper pipe I bought to do the job was only £8 and there was enough to do the whole car. It does mean more work involved, but it's a piece of piss to do. Take the old ones off whilst keeping their original shape and use a bending tool to copy it.

But it does seem your problem is the fact that the original pipes are stronger than the copper replacement :)

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Don't forget that the rear brake pipes have unions just before they disappear into the exhaust tunnel, so you don't have to drop the whole bottom of the car if you replace the pipe as Des says.

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 Post subject: Re: brake pipe flaring
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thanks Des. think that might have to be the case.

yeah i saw that on the guides dan thanks. did you swap the pipes over yeah?

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Dont fret about it though dude, it really is simple, just a bit time consuming. At least you know its all fresh then and you dont have the worry of them rusting anywhere in the near future.

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i agree mate. its only because i have set myself a deadline stupidly and i really want it done for then, i have a fair few days booked off from now and until then (end of decemeber) so i just need to knuckle down. with the help from you guys i should be fine! just more and more money lol.

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Like I say though, its only 8 quid a roll last time I bought some. Just dont forget to put the unions on the pipe before you shape and flare :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: brake pipe flaring
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haha thanks Des! youre like my dad... a nob head! ha only messing ;)

just had a gander, £7.50 so ill do that.

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Ahhh so thats where you get it from...

Dont forget the pipe bending tool though if you havent got one already, you cant do it by hand :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: brake pipe flaring
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yeah i got one bud :) i did try with the originals lol... there was me thinking i was fairly strong. fail.

still going to try flare the originals tomorrow after work just to make sure it definetely isnt happening lol

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