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Author:  Becks [ Mon Mar 31, 2008 8:10 pm ]
Post subject:  2ltr fiesta guru's needed
Stupid fapping barstewarding car!!!! :x

Went out in all that rain on Saturday, put the car to bed and when i got in it Sunday morning to go out it wouldn't start, it was turning over fine, but just wouldn't fire!
Sooo terry has come to my rescue (with help of some telephone friends - you know who your are ;) and has done the following to try and sort it:
Replaced CPS
Swapped Coil Pack - From terrys working one!
New plugs
Swapped ECU - From terrys working one!
Checked for spark (ok)
Checked for fuel (ok)

Had a recovery bloke out who managed to get it started after continuous turning over, when it started it was mis-firing, and sounded like a tractor! After revving it for abit it wouldn't idle on its own and just cuts out. Then its a mission to try and start again :cry:

Any help muchly appreciated or its going to the scrap yard! :x :x
Author:  garry_noble [ Mon Mar 31, 2008 10:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2ltr fiesta guru's needed
can u get it started when puttin bit of revs down as u crank it ova??????

and when it was running like a tractor was it keepin revs up enough or did it jst die straight away.


u wont send it to scrappies!!!

could u get me video of it runnin s***t please! that would help wit suggestions as to wat it could be ! otherwise would jst be taken wild guesses really!!
Author:  cs detailing [ Mon Mar 31, 2008 10:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2ltr fiesta guru's needed
is the spark still weak or ok now ?

if it is ok, like i said to terry in a txt earlier timing my dear watson !

if its fueling and there is a spark thats all it can be ( unless im being dense and missing something stupidly simple )
Author:  garry_noble [ Mon Mar 31, 2008 10:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2ltr fiesta guru's needed
i wouldnt of thought the timin would change ova nite really.

hw was the car drivin before u parked it up for the nite???

u can see hw strong spark is if u lean the plug agains rocker cover nd watch the jump,
Author:  happypaul [ Mon Mar 31, 2008 11:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2ltr fiesta guru's needed
plug gaps alright? sounds daft but mine was being a bástard and we couldnt figure it out till we faffed with the plug gaps.

Also, checked for any air leaks, in any of the pipes, the inlet manifolds etc as if they are bad it wouldnt wanna start, as you probably read.. I had them major air leak problems causing my car to not idle or start every now and then :(

Don't give up, not worth scrapping! :)
Author:  Mattyboy Esq [ Tue Apr 01, 2008 9:39 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2ltr fiesta guru's needed
Timing could have jumped out by a tooth or so, if you've hit a bump etc and the belts jumped. :(

If the timings right, im stumped but ill have a good think for you! :) Chin up!
Author:  Fezzyzetec [ Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:00 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2ltr fiesta guru's needed
i had the same problem with my 1.6 si

sounds like a broken valve spring or burnt out valve best thing to do is get a compression test done on it next
Author:  cs detailing [ Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:09 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2ltr fiesta guru's needed
broken valve spring would make all sorts of noises.

They have tried new and old plugs Happypaul.
They managed to get a weak spark with the old plugs so put new ones in and nothing. then put the old ones back in and no spark again.

Leads are newish i think terry said and they have tried the coilpack from terrys car as well as the ecu so that rules out the sparking system
Author:  Fezzyzetec [ Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:22 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2ltr fiesta guru's needed
got toi bhe coil pack when u change it look for the same serial number on the coil pack there are diffenret ones with different numbers if its a weak spark its got be related to the coil pack alos check the loom on the coil pack
Author:  Fezzyzetec [ Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:24 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2ltr fiesta guru's needed
or is it a injector stuck open and flooding the car also could be lambda could be anythin the only way to find out instead of wasting money is get a diagnostic tester on it we could be here all day guessing
Author:  woodsy_mv6 [ Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:26 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2ltr fiesta guru's needed
Along the lines of what Garry said.....

Rough just at idle?
Any throttle control?
Do revs rise and fall in anything other than a normal fashion?


How new are your dizzy and leads??
Author:  woodsy_mv6 [ Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:27 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2ltr fiesta guru's needed
.............Maybe your cat has finally given up the ghost.......... :? :?
Author:  Fezzyzetec [ Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:30 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2ltr fiesta guru's needed
have u tried camshaft sensor
Author:  cs detailing [ Tue Apr 01, 2008 12:28 pm ]
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Author:  cs detailing [ Tue Apr 01, 2008 12:30 pm ]
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Author:  Fezzyzetec [ Tue Apr 01, 2008 12:42 pm ]
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i think tbh boost she would be best taking it for a diagnostic test because really wasting all this money on unessecary things no point because u could spen like £10 on one and still wont do anything personally if it was my car i would take it for a diagnsotic test
Author:  cs detailing [ Tue Apr 01, 2008 12:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2ltr fiesta guru's needed
the breakdown man should of done one but didnt :rolleyes:
Author:  Becks [ Tue Apr 01, 2008 1:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2ltr fiesta guru's needed
Thanks for your replies guys, we have given up and its going to be towed to my local garage hopefully tomorrow and fingers crossed he figures out the problem!!! If its the cat im getting a de-cat pipe!
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!

Thanks again
Author:  Fezzyzetec [ Tue Apr 01, 2008 3:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2ltr fiesta guru's needed
becks try spraying some wd40 on all the connector plugs and check there are no breaks in the coil pack wires or the connector going to to the coil pack
Author:  Fezzyzetec [ Tue Apr 01, 2008 3:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2ltr fiesta guru's needed
this guide may be able to help u

http://www.geocities.com/vantaray/diagn ... gs.htm#cam
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