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Author:  Dazmaz [ Thu Jan 28, 2010 11:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Advice on Carbs or throttle bodies
Hey guys first off am new here and this is this first fiesta i have owned,

just finished putting a 2.0L zetec in it and am quite happy with it but feel there is room for more, so i would like some advice on what way to go with bike carbs or bike throttle bodies, ie how easy to do what to do and what i need if i need ECU or can run standard ford one,

cheers guys

Darren
Author:  onslack [ Fri Jan 29, 2010 9:51 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Advice on Carbs or throttle bodies
welcome too fsi darren, hope you enjoy your stay :thumbsup:

i've not really go any experience with either bike carbs or TB's, but for an emissions point of view i'd stick with Bike TB's

your best off pm'ing sk8xtrm on here as he did a TB conversion too his fez a while back and had it running on standard mangement

or pm will121 i also think he's using TB's/carbs(cant remember which) on standard management, both the guys above had to make an enclosure over the TB's/carbs and use a maf sensor

will did a guide, i'll dig it out for you

edit:- here it is

viewtopic.php?f=16&t=17588

but to get the most out of the setup i'd got for aftermarket management :thumbsup:
Author:  Dazmaz [ Fri Jan 29, 2010 2:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Advice on Carbs or throttle bodies
cheers mate and thanks ill keep looking into it, i only got the wee Si for a winter project, but now am addicted i have a wee love afair with her lol
Author:  onslack [ Fri Jan 29, 2010 2:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Advice on Carbs or throttle bodies
no worries buddy :thumbsup:

get some pic's up in the members gallery, if you have any other q's just ask :thumbsup:
Author:  will121 [ Fri Jan 29, 2010 6:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Advice on Carbs or throttle bodies
Hi, glad to hear you are enjoying the Si

think it depends on what you want to achieve and how much you want to spend,

ive done motorbike carbs on a 1600 CVH engine, and done some for a 2litre zetec works well but only issue is running carbs with a CAT doesnt really work, option with swapping it all back to injection just for MoT though

as for throttle bodies on standard ECU i done a basic guide as highlighted above, it works and produces an extra 10bhp and breaths/rev's a lot better. cost me about £200 to do with 149bhp.

to get the most from throttle bodies requires a programmable ECU then you can do away with the MAF which with other mods is what im currently doing they are anything from £300 megasquirt to £650 emerald/Omex ECU this should see upto 160bhp with ported head and decent cam's im hoping for 175-180bhp

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Author:  J9AYJ [ Fri Jan 29, 2010 8:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Advice on Carbs or throttle bodies
i had gxr throttle bodie on my old 2.0 zetec escort the nosie is so adictive i ran it with the standard ecu and to be honest unless its on full chat it ran shat,i changed to a megasquirt ecu and it ran so much beter
Author:  happypaul [ Fri Jan 29, 2010 9:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Advice on Carbs or throttle bodies
If you got CARBs I have a set of bike carbs which have been used a few times with users on the mk2 xr2 forums with 2.0ltr zetecs. they are 38.5mm I think.

All you need is to sort the fuel pressure with a bike pump and not the in tank pump, and use a wiring loom from a 1.3 for ignition :)
Author:  J9AYJ [ Fri Jan 29, 2010 11:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Advice on Carbs or throttle bodies
get them bought mate
Author:  Dazmaz [ Fri Jan 29, 2010 11:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Advice on Carbs or throttle bodies
sounds good mate! very interested, what else would i need to run them? would they need set up correctly buy someone in the know? and as for MOT its not got as cat anyway got a full hand made 3inch exhaust system i made my self and my pal has is own garage so, somthing just get how can i put it over looked ;)

so any more detail on the carb setup if its simple and that ill go for it :D

Darren
Author:  will121 [ Sat Jan 30, 2010 12:03 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Advice on Carbs or throttle bodies
Author:  Dazmaz [ Sat Jan 30, 2010 12:19 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Advice on Carbs or throttle bodies
yeah this has a coil pack so dont know how that would work with the carbs its all EFI just now to, cos if i put the carbs on it and removed the ECU and injectors MAF so on she wouldnt fire, is there a way around this?
Author:  will121 [ Sat Jan 30, 2010 12:37 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Advice on Carbs or throttle bodies
you couldnt use the orignal EFI ECu just for spark, but believe the 1.1/1.3 has a separate ignition only module indepandant of fuel with a ignition/spark map/profile that will run a zetec
Author:  happypaul [ Sat Jan 30, 2010 11:39 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Advice on Carbs or throttle bodies
Author:  J9AYJ [ Sat Jan 30, 2010 9:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Advice on Carbs or throttle bodies
Author:  Dazmaz [ Sun Jan 31, 2010 6:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Advice on Carbs or throttle bodies
nice one guys cheers for all the advice :D ill look into getting it all sorted an set up, just finished some body repairs and its going in for a lick of paint monday, will get some before and after pics up, al had a spare NOS kit kicking about so thats in it the now as well lol
Author:  Dazmaz [ Thu Feb 04, 2010 9:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Advice on Carbs or throttle bodies
been doing some more looking around and am gonna go for the carbs,

so to recap all i need is

:manifold plate (i can weld) so can make the bodys fit right
:ESC unit
:600cc Carbs (what needs to be done to them? or do they work out the box so to speak?
:fuel pump to match the carbs ie from the same bike, (how would i fit this?)

cheers guys
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