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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 1:14 pm 
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I spoke to MSW who sold me my Mintex, also read a few articles including one by a Ferodo engineer about pads & bedding-in.

OK so we all know that your common or garden car brake works by pads in a hydraulic caliper gripping a rotating disc. But within that there are actually 2 types of friction at work: abrasive & adhesive.

Abrasive friction is what you'd commonly think - pads gripping i.e. rubbing the disc. This happens at start and low temperatures. The pads need to have a decent amount of physical friction to grip a disc when they're cold, something ultra-hard high temp race pads may not.

A new set of pads will need to be run-in to allow bits to compress and physical interface with the disc surface (any rut and pits) to marry. So you run them medium gently for the first 75 miles (150 if new discs as well), avoiding emergency stops if possible. This should press the pad together and "break in" the surface of the pads with the disc..

Then there's adhesive friction. This is the one that you're using when the brakes are up and running temp. By depositing a layer of friction pad material onto the disc, when it's hot the brake pad surfaces are making and breaking bonds to the pad material stuck on the disc. Result, even stronger braking This is where temperature by-product is being used to an advantage, and unlike abrasive shouldn't wear your disc down much - worn F1 & race discs can be as thick or even thicker than when put on! as the pads have deposited their guts onto the disc.

So to complete the bedding process, you need to bed your pads & discs in for the second kind of friction as well.

In plenty of space or on your private airfield accelerate to 60mph, then brake at 80% effort down to 10mph. Take it back up to 60, down to 10mph. Do 8 such stops but avoid coming to a complete halt! At first the braking feel and distance should steadily improve. But note that halfway through the stops you may get a soft pedal, cooked brake smell, even burning! Don't panic, this is called "Green Fade" and is simply solvents and chemicals used in the pad manufacture burning off & consolidating.. Stick with it. Incidentally, full-on race pads get little or no "green fade" so it's all about getting those up to temperature.

Once the above stops are done, take a 15 minute cooling run at motorway speed and avoiding complete stops with the brakes applied. Try the brakes, should feel good. If not let them cool off & repeat above procedure.

Note about glazing: Yes pads that have exceeded their working temperature may glaze over..this is more common with new discs at same time as pads, but basically be careful what temperature you're putting into them.

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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 1:31 pm 
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'tis a guide I have followed myself and absolutely vital for hardcore pads like Ferodo's own DS3000s and DS3000+



One point not properly mentioned though......

If you've got new pads and new discs, you need to do this procedure thrice.

Once with the new discs and the old pads, once with the new pads and the old discs, and then again with all new to complete the "marry stage" as described.

This avoids the adhesive sh!t warping your nice new discs during the initial gripping phase.


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PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 8:41 pm 
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Buy motorsport pads :P None of this bedding in lark! Mine were abused from day 1 :lol:

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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 11:21 pm 
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what ones do you have?


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