im not a fan of clios, i was nearly killed in a 182 and since i havnt liked them at all. i know there are cheaper cars but you know when you find a car you really want. ive still got things i want to do with my Si and i would like a civic vti so im thinking now to wait a bit then get one, i will get one tho (plus my girlfriend went mental when i said i wanted to spend 17000 on a car)