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PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 2:07 am 
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Can someone tell me how you change gear ratios in a 1.4 si. Is it an easy DIY thing or is it more advanced than that? I feel so dumb, but hopefully one of you will have the patience to tell me thanks.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 10:26 am 
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To change the ratios would be pointless mainly de to the expense.

I'd take a leaf out of others books, and change the box for another compatable one from a different engined Fiesta/Escort.

I've made several attempts on here to get the ratios of several boxes so as to do some proper in gear speed number crunching, but to no avail.


What are you after?? A closer set of ratios or a box with a longer top gear etc.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 12:28 pm 
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To change the ratios would be pointless mainly de to the expense.

I'd take a leaf out of others books, and change the box for another compatable one from a different engined Fiesta/Escort.

I've made several attempts on here to get the ratios of several boxes so as to do some proper in gear speed number crunching, but to no avail.


What are you after?? A closer set of ratios or a box with a longer top gear etc.


Well, I was in my mtes 180,000 mile crappy cords yesterday, I'd just dumps in an air filter for him and it's the first time he's let it proper rip with me in the car, and it was so quick! For a 1.4 it would flying through the higher revs and staying there, it neverdropped lower than 4000rpm and would just be at 6000 and ready to change before I knew it, it hit ninety so quick.. And my car hits 75 and just thinks.. Yeah I'll get there, eventually. So I wanted a but more accelaration in the higher gears. My low gears fly.. But who's dosent?
I did look at an escort rs turbo gearbox, which ones are decent and will go straight in?

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1.4 8v isn't a revvy engine mate :thumbsup:

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1.4 8v isn't a revvy engine mate :thumbsup:


Yeah I know that, I just thought it could be a little bit quicker, because it just kinds slows right down, but maybe it's just because it is an 8v, we reckon he might have a new gearbox though.

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Si box ratios are like that i think mate :)

has he put nos on it secrectly? :lol:

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Si box ratios are like that i think mate :)

has he put nos on it secrectly? :lol:


Ha! It's not THAT quick. Just alot quicker than mine. Oh well. New gearbox it is. Recommendations?

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1.4 8v isn't a revvy engine mate :thumbsup:

Max power comes in higher up than on the 1.6!!

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i didn't say the 1.6 was revvy either :halo: :P

cvhs aren't generally revvy though 8-)

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also i think the cvh max power things are bollocks

on the xr3i, max power was apparantly at 6000rpm, which was bollocks as above 5000rpm you could feel it tail off and just make a noise :rolleyes:

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You've just described every gutless little 3/4 pot there.

Peak revs are about right when compared to the competition :insanity:

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i'm a 5 cylinder man now :P

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This is something that's been annoying me.....my 1st gear goes on forever !! I get beaten by 1.3 fiesta's off the lights and it's emmbarressing lol makes me wanna say " oh yer it's an xr2i rep pmsl "

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This is something that's been annoying me.....my 1st gear goes on forever !! I get beaten by 1.3 fiesta's off the lights and it's emmbarressing lol makes me wanna say " oh yer it's an xr2i rep pmsl "

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PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2010 9:12 pm 
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I love how thick I used to be :D

as for your 1st gear thing. I've not idea :doh: Ok.. So i'm still thick :lolz:

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so is the 1.4 gearbox ratios different from the 1.6? (probably a thick question but i dont have a clue lol) :doh:

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Dunno really, The 1.4 just runs out of puff alot quicker and once your at 60-70 your stuck for anymore overtaking power or anything, ratios could be the same? no idea. But the engines obviously have different powers and valves. Which make a huge difference.
When i was talking about this up there I said about my mates corsa, turns out to be the 1,4 88BHP 16v, So of course it was quick, was as quick as my 1.6.

I've no real idea about ratios, i just know what speed the 1.6 did in 1st and 2nd lol not sure on the 1.4 as I changed about 5000rpm MAX barely revved it as it was so slow and the engine was so old.

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just wondering as it widens my field on the look out for a gearbox, i dont really want to try a different box other than standard.

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Pretty sure you've been told but the only real reason to change would be for a escort LSD box. unless you wanted to have a 1.1 like Paul did you change gear alot but im sure its pretty brutal :lolz:

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my box is broke so iv no choice, you cringe everytime you push the accelerator too hard lol

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