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Author:  samwatson [ Mon Nov 19, 2012 7:23 pm ]
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so the 2liter engines. theres blacktop and silvertop zetec engines out the mondeo's. now whatsthe difference in the two? and which is better?
also how much is the right price to pay for one?

Author:  elPaulio [ Mon Nov 19, 2012 7:48 pm ]
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Sam,

The main differences are blacktops have solid lifters and thesilvertop has hydraulic
Engine mounts are different too, silver top will fit in place of 1.6 zetec blacktop will require mods to the mounts.

What's better? Blacktop. What's easier? Silver top.

Very high level there and I'm sure someone else will give more info but I'm on my phone so can't type it up fully

Paul

Author:  samwatson [ Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:39 pm ]
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and am i right in sayingthat to identyfy, a blacktop is litteraly what it say's and has a black (possibly plastic rocker cover)
and silver top has the usualy croaded bare aliminum rocker>?

Author:  - Danny Boy - [ Tue Nov 20, 2012 12:21 am ]
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Yup

Author:  meilack [ Tue Nov 20, 2012 8:11 am ]
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look at james_rs's old thread as he fitted a blacktop in his si before the duratec turbo fiesta

Author:  elPaulio [ Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:40 am ]
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samwatson wrote:
and am i right in sayingthat to identyfy, a blacktop is litteraly what it say's and has a black (possibly plastic rocker cover)
and silver top has the usualy croaded bare aliminum rocker>?


Yes, although be careful, the blacktop cover fits the silver top engine iirc!!

There are other differences around the cambel end of the engine, but not having a blacktop I can't tell you what they are :(

Paul

Author:  woodsy_mv6 [ Tue Nov 20, 2012 10:49 am ]
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samwatson wrote:
.......... and which is better?
There's only one way to find out...... FIGHT

Author:  fiestasiphil [ Tue Nov 20, 2012 7:17 pm ]
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I think the silvertop has a tiny bit more power according to fast ford or performance ford mag 6bhp or something

Author:  samwatson [ Tue Nov 20, 2012 8:09 pm ]
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right and what sort of money we talking they worth?


@phil, did alex scrap the rs 1800 engine with the escort or take it out? ta

Author:  - Danny Boy - [ Tue Nov 20, 2012 8:12 pm ]
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£50-250 for 2nd hand silvertop

£600 for new blacktop.

Author:  elPaulio [ Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:00 pm ]
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eBay is your friend for blacktop ATM. Saw one go up here with 40k on it for 60 quid
Very nearly bid on it myself to keep for if mines let go.

Came with gearbox an all!!!

Paul

Author:  samwatson [ Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:11 pm ]
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- Danny Boy - wrote:

£600 for new blacktop.

can you still buy them new from fords then??

Author:  - Danny Boy - [ Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:19 pm ]
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Probably. Ford might charge you about £2000 if you went into there and bought one though. But you can still buy them brand new for £600 from various places/companies who would have originally got them from ford.

Author:  elPaulio [ Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:22 pm ]
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viewtopic.php?f=16&t=20151

Author:  samwatson [ Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:34 pm ]
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- Danny Boy - wrote:
Probably. Ford might charge you about £2000 if you went into there and bought one though. But you can still buy them brand new for £600 from various places/companies who would have originally got them from ford.

for example?

Author:  - Danny Boy - [ Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:40 pm ]
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cba to look at the moment, search ebay, probably a few on there. kit car companies sell them too.

Author:  elPaulio [ Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:43 pm ]
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Ebay Linky

Author:  fiestasiphil [ Tue Nov 20, 2012 10:41 pm ]
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samwatson wrote:
right and what sort of money we talking they worth?


@phil, did alex scrap the rs 1800 engine with the escort or take it out? ta


he took it out, theres a few 2.0 silvertop mondeos at temple farm spares

Author:  DanFraser [ Wed Nov 21, 2012 10:54 pm ]
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fiestasiphil wrote:
I think the silvertop has a tiny bit more power according to fast ford or performance ford mag 6bhp or something


The official figures give the black top more, about 6 more and the torque is improved over the range. If you want better, go blacktop, it's completely superior.

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